"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
10/31/2017 at 12:30 • Filed to: review, saab 900, aftermarket parts, project, wrenching | 4 | 7 |
of everything it took to get this new pump assembly working.
This pump (PN: 23348653), offered by Professional Parts Sweden (“Pro Parts”) is supposed to be a direct-fit replacement, applicable only to early ’90s Saab 900s and 9000s. Sold for about $100, it appeared to be an attractive alternative to OEM Saab & Walbro units costing more than 3 times as much.
Let’s start at the top. The lid has two ports, one for pressure, one for return, and both of them were too small to fit the check valve elbows that were supposed to seat inside. But instead of being the “next size down”, they were so close to being correct that we tried to hook it up anyway. The plastic fittings wedged in the bores tightly, preventing us from seating them down all the way under the retainer clips. It was even tighter than the O-rings.
We were half-tempted to drill out the bores, but were not confident about how the interior finish would turn out. And besides, the plastic was already slightly thinner and more flexible than the original Saab unit that came out of the car. Any drilling would just make it even more fragile.
Under the hat, the wiring connector was also a super-tight fit into the old hat that we ended up re-using. It was close enough to make us think that it would work with just a little more elbow grease, but we finally gave up. We cut the sender wires, and released the spade connectors from the pump, and used the old one instead. (We also noticed that the OEM wiring was a little thicker.)
If that wasn’t frustrating enough, the nylon pump tubing was a larger diameter than the OEM, requiring some modification on our part to plumb the old hat to the new pump assembly.
Speaking of the tubing, the new pump’s plumbing stuck out from the sides, making each installation and removal of the pump more difficult. The OEM pump had the tubing tucked up against the pump body much neater. At least we had the foresight to remove the float arm for the sender, since this car uses a separate sender assembly on the other side of the tank. (Maybe the float arm is only used on 9000s?)
Down next to the basket was the “ejector pump”. The new assembly included some sort of brass orifice in the straw that feeds the pickup basket. This tip was not present on the OEM one.
But the worse part was finding a ball bearing wedged inside of the straw, just behind the orifice. It was in there too tightly to push out with an allen key, so we ended up cutting the end of the straw away to remove the bearing and restore fuel flow from the tank to the basket.
The engine seemed to run just fine without these pieces, but some further research on “ejector pumps” suggests that the bulb on the side of the basket is a check valve that prevents fuel from draining back after shut-off. If this ball bearing was part of that valve, there might be some side-effects that we haven’t encountered yet.
At any rate, the bearing was not doing any good by blocking the straw. It had to go. And even if we figured out how to open the ejector to put it back in there, it would probably just pop back into the line and starve the engine.
Finally, the plastic components of the new pump assembly were of a thinner plastic than the old pump. During one of the installation/removals, we even broke off a few teeth from the new included lock ring that secures it in place. We thought we were being careful before, but after that, we were sure to handle all parts extra-delicately.
Surely we wouldn’t have had all this trouble with an expensive OEM pump. Was it worth saving $200? Eh, probably. But “Pro Parts” sure knows how to test one’s patience.
Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> Urambo Tauro
10/31/2017 at 12:42 | 1 |
Cautionary tale, thanks!
So, funny story. At the recent VOCA National Meet, the subject of Pro Parts Swenden, AKA Pro Parts and previously known as Scantech, came up. Apparently Scantech got such a bad reputation in the Saab and Volvo communities, they changed their name to avoid it. They’re sort of the EMPI of Swedish cars. They make everything, and are even the “OEM” on a lot of NLA stuff now, but everything they make is, more or less, cheap garbage.
Also, pro tip, EEuroParts has, at least once, sold me Saab branded parts that when they arrived had magically transformed into Pro Parts Sweden branded parts.
BahamaTodd
> Urambo Tauro
10/31/2017 at 12:54 | 2 |
Since that (shitty) valve is on the outlet side of the ejector, it would be used to keep fuel in the reservoir after the vehicle is shut off. This won’t be a problem if you keep the fuel level high enough, but if the tank is very low, you might have difficulty starting. Especially if you park on an incline which allows the fuel to collect on one side of the tank away from the fuel module.
There is probably another check valve on the inlet side of the ejector, or at the T-fitting where the tube splits to go to the engine or ejector.
Urambo Tauro
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
10/31/2017 at 12:59 | 1 |
Geez, it’s like the Shitty Parts Witless Protection Program .
Funny thing is, when we first broke the check valve due to the fitment issue, we were careful to order Pro Parts Sweden branded check valves (buying both just in case the other ended up breaking, too). We fully expected Pro Parts to be compatible with its own brand, and thought that they just had their own size fitting.
But the new PPS check valves ended up being the exact same size as the Saab ones. They wouldn’t fit the PPS pump, but they were a perfect fit for the OEM Saab one. The only difference was that the barbed fitting for the car’s plumbing was the next size up, requiring an adapter.
Urambo Tauro
> BahamaTodd
10/31/2017 at 13:16 | 1 |
That makes sense. We’re going to keep running it as-is and see what happens. I don’t want to try opening the valve, for fear of breaking it beyond repair. As for the old OEM one, that’s kind of a catch-22: It might break if we tried to open it for cleaning, but it’s also too gummed up to use as-is.
There is an OEM ejector unit available, but it’s supposedly only for 9-3s and 9-5s, whereas the pump assembly is for 900s and 9000s. The picture looks like it’d be a perfect match, though.
I dunno. Like I said, we’re just gonna run it as-is and see what happens.
shop-teacher
> Urambo Tauro
10/31/2017 at 14:08 | 1 |
I’m genuinely impressed by all the work you were able to do to make that part work. Personally, I would’ve returned it and bit the bullet on an OEM one. I don’t think I have enough patience to do all that stuff ... I use all my patience up at work :)
Urambo Tauro
> shop-teacher
10/31/2017 at 14:23 | 2 |
The vendor’s policy only allows for exchanges, and I’m sure that means that we’d just end up with a new Pro Parts unit with the same problems (maybe without the ejector blockage, though). I highly doubt that they’d swap for a much more expensive item.
But even though we’ve butchered this one up quite a bit, it may be worth contacting them anyway. Even if they don’t give my brother anything for his trouble, they really need to stop offering that product, or at least warn buyers up front that it requires some modifications to make it work.
At any rate, we are pretty much DONE with Pro Parts Sweden.
shop-teacher
> Urambo Tauro
10/31/2017 at 14:27 | 1 |
Gotcha. Yeah, chalk it up to a learning experience.